Thursday, October 04, 2012

LDS Liberty; Justifying Anti-Government Practices?

 An interesting anti-government scheme is suggested by members of the LDS Liberty group.  Since their libertarian roots are supposedly offended by any form of socialism, some of them show their belief by refusing to obtain a social security number, which some of them refer to contemptuously as a "Socialist Security Number".  They soon discover that they supposedly need not file a US tax return without one, which has the effect of saving lots of money, and they cannot register for the draft, which they don't support anyway.  Here are some members of the group discussing the virtues of being an anti-government activist.

Rock Waterman says:
It is not widely known that a person who does not have a social security number cannot be called up for the draft, just as they cannot be compelled to pay the federal income tax.
Your social security number is the means by which the government lays claim to your future earnings and your service to pay the obligations of the federal government, including your duty to act as cannon fodder if needed. When FDR effectively moved the United States into bankruptcy in 1933, he pledged the future earnings of the people as collateral on the debt. We were all tricked into obtaining social security numbers, believing it was mandatory to hold a job. It is not. But it is the nexus by which the government claims ownership of the people living within the states. It takes you out of the protection of the state and makes you a U.S. Citizen.
Of course, today it is extremely difficult to function without a social security number, but some manage. The rest of us are in pretty deep, I’m afraid. We’ve sold ourselves to the devil.
  • You are correct. “We’ve sold ourselves to the devil.”
    You cannot be a faithful LDS and be a Socialist. The Prophets have said so since the 30s.
    If you want to send the 666 SSN back to them you need to use the Religious Freedom Restoration Act.
    I have not filed a 1040 Return in over 34 years. I have letters from the IRS that I am not required to file a 1040. I know I am exempt and my lawyer tells me I am exempt. My children do not have SSNs. I sent the number that they assigned to me back long ago. Remember…SSN belong to the government. They are NEVER YOUR number. Read the instruction card if you don’t believe me. They OWN it…Not you.
    The Church supported the RFRA. Elder Oaks spoke to Congress telling them that the Church supported it. God allows those that seek liberty to find it but only if you REALLY want liberty enough to do anything to get it except be immoral or violent. No need for that God provides the way.
    With 31 USC Section 5112(e) and the RFRA every Latter-day Saint that wants to be free from the IRS and Social Security and other Federal entanglements can be free. But you have to WANT to be free and WORK to be free. Freedom is not free.
    Any man or woman that is not willing to risk what the Founding Fathers risked are not really worthy of liberty nor celestial glory IMHO.
    Mormons need not apply. Only Christian Latter-day Saints. (See 3rd Nephi Chapter 27)
    “Next to being one in worshiping God, there is nothing in this world in which this Church should be more united than in upholding and defending the Constitution of the Unite States. If members of the Melchizedek Priesthood allow the U.S. Constitution to be destroyed, they not only forfeit their rights to the Priesthood, but to a place in this highest degree of glory as well.”
    (David O. McKay, The Instructor, Feb. 1956, p.34)
    Why be LDS and a Socialist with their card? You cannot serve two masters. Either liberate yourself or EXPECT to lose your priesthood.
Over ten years ago my sons became ALMOST eligible for the draft. I called the Draft Board or whatever they are called and told them that my sons were old enough to register but that they did not have Social Security Numbers and asked if my sons could register without them.
The nice guy told me how to get them Social Security Numbers.
I informed him that I had religious objections to such numbers and so did my sons and that they would NOT be applying for Social Security Numbers.
I was told that my sons COULD NOT register for the draft without Social Security Numbers. Naturally they never registered.
Did you know that without a Social Security Number that you cannot file a 1040 Tax Return either?
The Income tax is “voluntary” because you have to volunteer just like you have to volunteer to be drafted. The prophets and apostles have repeatedly told us to eschew Socialism. A Social Security Number is how you become a Socialist.
To him that has eye to read let him understand.

A few words of counsel from one of the Lord's anointed addresses the issues raised here.

 First, Elder Oaks refers to "one note hobbies":
 ...My first example concerns Satan's efforts to corrupt a person who has an unusual commitment to one particular doctrine or commandment of the gospel of Jesus Christ. This could be an unusual talent for family history work, an extraordinary commitment to constitutional government, a special gift in the acquisition of knowledge, or any other special talent or commitment.
In a memorable message given at the 1971 October conference, Elder Boyd K. Packer likened the fulness of the gospel to a piano keyboard. He reminded us that a person could be "attracted by a single key," such as a doctrine they want to hear "played over and over again." He explained:
Some members of the Church who should know better pick out a hobby key or two and tap them incessantly, to the irritation of those around them. They can dull their own spiritual sensitivities. They lose track that there is a fulness of the gospel, . . . [which they reject] in preference to a favorite note. This becomes exaggerated and distorted, leading them away into apostasy. [Boyd K. Packer, Teach Ye Diligently (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1975), p. 44] 

Next, he cites the example of one who favors certain isolated words from selected prophetic counsel:

 ...A related distortion is seen in the practice of those who select a few sentences from the teachings of a prophet and use these to support their political agenda or other personal purposes. In doing so, they typically ignore the contrary implications of other prophetic words, or even the clear example of the prophet's own actions. For example, I have corresponded with several Church members who sought to use something President Benson is quoted as saying as a basis for refusing to file an income-tax return or to pay income taxes. I have tried to persuade these persons that their interpretation cannot be what President Benson intended, because both he and his predecessors in that sacred office, and all of the General Authorities, have faithfully filed their income-tax returns and paid the taxes required by law. The servants of God are under the Master's commands to follow him and to be examples to the flock (1 Timothy 4:12; 1 Peter 5:3). We should interpret their words in the light of their walk. To wrest the words of a prophet to support a private agenda, political or financial or otherwise, is to try to manipulate the prophet, not to follow him.

Lastly, he warns against those who takes too much pride in a particular individual strong point.  Note that he makes specific reference to spiritual gifts:
 ...A person who engages in self-congratulation over a supposed strength has lost the protection of humility and is vulnerable to Satan's using that strength to produce his or her downfall. In contrast, if we are humble and teachable, hearkening to the commandments of God, the counsel of his leaders, and the promptings of his spirit, we can be guided. We can be guided in how to use our spiritual gifts, our accomplishments, and all of our other strengths for righteousness. And we can be guided in how to avoid Satan's efforts to use our strengths to cause our downfall.

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