Friday, October 20, 2006

How to change things?

In his Messenger and Advocate blog, Guy Murray deplores the current situation in Iraq.

I Am Ashamed

In reply, I proposed that he suggest how he might change current circumstances, given that he could go back in time to a moment of his choice, retaining the knowledge he has of current circumstances.

I thought this might develop into an interesting way to examine current circumstances and how we feel about them.

I haven't collaborated with Guy Murray about this. He may decide it is a stupid idea.

We'll see what happens.

1 comment:

Guy Murray said...


Sorry, I must have misunderstood your focus. I honestly don't know what I would or could have done to change events. If as you hypothesize I could have murdered George Bush, then I assume for this exercise I would be able to accomplish things that in real life I would not be able to do.

Assuming that, I would not go back and murder George Bush (as incompetent and bad as I think he is for America--he does not deserve to die); rather, I would go back without any hesitation and have killed Osama Bin Laden and his top leadership cronies--perhaps altering slightly future events. But, even that is doubtful since he appears to have been involved in an entire movement larger than just one man or group of men.

Or, perhaps I would go back in time become Nobel prize winning scientist and invent an alternate energy source making the United States and the West oil independent, thereby alleviating the need to become so involved in the Middle East. Or, perhaps have become an influential political leader so that I could have influenced U.S. energy policy in early 1970's to concentrate earlier on better and more efficient energy sources at that time, i.e. electric, solar, nuclear, and the like.

I don't know. It's an interesting question you pose. And, I'm not certain if my responses are what you are looking for.

Unfortunately we are where we are. I think it more incumbent upon us to deal with the situation in which we find ourselves. What can we do now to stop this waste of human life?

As unpopular a position as this position is in many LDS circles, I really feel that we should just up and leave Iraq as soon as it is practically possible. Eventually, Congress cut off funding for the Vietnam war, despite all the drastic prognostications way back then that if the south fell, so would western civilization as we knew it. Of course that didn't happen. Vietnam eventually unified, and resolved their own problems in their own way. Today we have somewhat friendly relations with them. If I had enough political influence today I would use that influence to persuade Congress to cut off funding for Iraq’s war.

So, I don't know Jim---where do we go from here, knowing what we know as LDS?